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Michael Engberg talks to exploers in Quintin’s neighborhood. {{Ambox| sect = {{{1|}}} chat log is only partially preserved.}} {{Ambox| sect = {{{1|}}} chat log's timestamps for individual messages were not available.}} ---- '''Michael Engberg''':Talking to the DRC boys getting this hood up to speed.<br /> Quintin: Thanks<br /> Tweek: Hi Michael,<br /> Quintin: First off, we have rules to this meeting, no one flames,, we all must be reasonable, ok<br /> Quintin: Hi all<br /> Christoph05: agreed. where shall we gather?<br /> Tweek: Quintin, fine with me Im sick and tired of people screaming at the DRC<br /> Quintin: near the fountain<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Can someone open the link room door?<br /> Arnium: That’s how it should Be!<br /> Quintin: it is the grand meeting place<br /> Quintin: I say that Chris should go first.<br /> Quintin: Chris<br /> Quintin: Meet up by the fountain, please if you would like to.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Just to let you know I wasn’t even planning for a meeting tonight, so I might be short<br /> Quintin: Say your peace. come on<br /> Quintin: Are you for or against the DRC or the third side<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Quintin, I think you need to open the door ..if you can<br /> Tweek: Hey Quintin, can you open the linking room door?<br /> Arnium: Shorah Tweek, Tink<br /> Tweek: hi Tink<br /> Christoph05: I am mainly on the neutral side, however I would like to help the DRC if they change some things<br /> Tink: Hiya Arnium!<br /> Quintin: I cannot open the door, let me try later please. or<br /> Quintin: Michael what do yo have to say to that…<br /> Ford Prefect: the other side is open<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': sides.. everyone is talking about sides down here..<br /> Ford Prefect starts to laugh<br /> Quintin: I am giving Micheal a chance<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Let me place the nexus book and then I’ll start the meeting<br /> Quintin: Come on Micheal, I am sorry that the meeting attendance is out of control<br /> Ford Prefect: i meant the otehr door<br /> Taliametris: Everyone has been told that they must choose sides so naturally they talk about it<br /> bonz: this is d`ni how do we all work togather<br /> Tweek: Im gonna take the side of soem random lamp..we alone will light the cavern bwuhahah…erm or not<br /> Taliametris: I’m sorry I do not understand what you mean<br /> Taliametris: I arrived late<br /> Ford Prefect: do you stand at a 45 degree angle often?<br /> Tink: Saw the Nexus book come into the room<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Tink I placed it there..<br /> Quintin: Ok I would like to name names as to who is stirring up trouble.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': OKay lets sit<br /> Tweek: I should see about playing more heek later<br /> Elion: how do i sit?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': First off how is everyone doing?<br /> Rodnik: excellent sir<br /> Quintin: good<br /> Arnium: Talia is having communication problems<br /> Lindy: great<br /> Quintin: lets all greet the guest<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': no need to call me sir, I’m michael<br /> Rodnik: sorry i call alot of people sir for no reason<br /> Elion: how do i sit down?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I’ve heard rumors about divisions, on the DRC site and down here.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': It worries me,<br /> Ford Prefect: ive heard rumors about the green lights<br /> Rodnik: i think its silly<br /> Tweek: green lights?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Green lights?<br /> Ford Prefect: the green lights here having an effect on something<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': again I wasn’t really planning a “DRC” Meeting, just kind of want to hear your concerns<br /> Taliametris: People have been encouraged to think that they must choose sides, and therefore it is the course of much talk<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': the divisions , sides, what ever you would like to call them does worry me<br /> Taliametris: and that leads naturally to people taking u p positions<br /> Rodnik: i think the majority of people really would like to keep the issue of sides out of it<br /> Taliametris: And that has led to some division<br /> Rodnik: there are those that wish to force opinions<br /> Taliametris: Yes - I agree<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': like I have said before we are all family down here<br /> Tweek: the sides choosing thing is annoying me…people are being sneaky trying to get otthers in trouble..and being rude and impatient..<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': and even in family you will have people who disagree<br /> Taliametris: it is about power<br /> Tweek: Dont think many people realise that to make this restoration work we must get along<br /> bonz: michael did i realy see you walk over to the fountian and turn on the water??<br /> bonz: when i first got here<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Tweek, exactly, I think if we agree that we can disagree . Life will go alot easier<br /> Taliametris: the anti-DRC faction want power over the explorers<br /> John_Drake: Michale, you could difuse the Sharper situation. After all he was only following the DRC’s guidlines by getting rid of a dangerious creature. There have been unconfirmed reports of Shroomie attacks on explorers<br /> Taliametris: to use against the DRC<br /> Tweek: John> yes the shroomie thing has gotten way out of hand<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': talia, I hate jumping tte assuming<br /> Taliametris: I do not want to take sides, they seem equally unknown<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': what I mean is I hate to assume<br /> Taliametris: It is an ongoing process that is damaging<br /> Tweek: Rodnik> Oh some of them have trust me<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Bonz, yes I turned on the water. Talked to some of THe DRC boys via KI and they turned it on.<br /> Tweek: when back on the surface I have read some of the views of others and its obvious they have choosen<br /> John_Drake: If you find the time Michael, the water in the Village is still off too<br /> Taliametris: Not all of them are quiet<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': so basicly, all i have to say lets all get along..<br /> Tweek: agreed Talia<br /> Ford Prefect: also, the island pages are missing all over, but there may be a reason for thta<br /> Arnium: Let’s keep on topic folks.<br /> bonz: i think th as explores we need to stay togather and not let them take away the ouly power we have<br /> Tweek: well I for one agree with those sentiments Michael<br /> John_Drake: We are, most of us, trying<br /> Taliametris: I agree with that<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I know people are not always going to agree with the DRC, but if you get to know us and understand us better I think you will see we are not that bad.<br /> Tweek: I admit I do find you sometimes over cautious..if I spelt that correctly..but I can see why you do put such a meaning on safty down here..its very dangerous<br /> Arnium: Enlighten us then, what are your goals/plans for the exploration of D’ni. In general terms?<br /> Tweek: but I do feel that people need to be patient..demanding that area to be opened is only going to cause accidents<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Tweek, yes, we have been , but then look at our past. Fight Branch, phil going somewhere we had no clue of where. There are unknown dangers all around us.<br /> Tweek: yes<br /> Tweek: what happened to Branch?<br /> Taliametris: Why is he so reluctant to talk to you?<br /> John_Drake: I agree, there are no first aid kits that I have seen<br /> Tweek: we have been lucky that Phil is…erm ok<br /> Taliametris: I mean Phil Henderson<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I wish I knew..<br /> Tweek: Talia> Phil has things he needs to do..like some of us..he’ll speak when he feels it is time<br /> Ford Prefect: I know that theres not much that can be done about it now, but I think the “sides” kinda stemed from when Yesha told us to “wear our shirts to show what side we had taken, when sides are taken”<br /> Tweek: yes, silly lady hehe<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Everyone wants to know the “Plan”<br /> Arnium: The present “choice” does not seem to include Yeesha?<br /> Taliametris: No - we should have a say. The plan should be One which is inclusive of the explorers<br /> Tweek: Ah come come Michael thats a genralization..not everyone whats to know the plan<br /> John_Drake: But some hints would be nice<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': The plan is to continue to work like the DRC has always needed to.<br /> Tweek: Talia> true..but it is still early days yet<br /> To '''Michael Engberg''': Can I post the chatlog … on Greeter’s Guild forum?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I have been in Er’cana ..<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': tink yes..<br /> Taliametris: If there was more open ness on all sides it would be less easy for people to divide us<br /> Tweek: true<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Dr. Laxman has been working so so had, and infact might need your help sometime.<br /> John_Drake: Glad to help<br /> Tweek: I think out of all the “sides” Ive spoken to Phil has been the most forthcoming..DRC next..<br /> Tweek: I have yet to meet Laxman.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': opps I mean Mr.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': He’s more of a doctor in the meaning of life. :)<br /> Taliametris: I think that the people here are the best thing about the Cavern…and we shoudl fight hard to conserve what we have<br /> Taliametris: while fighting for the chance to be involved in the exploration <br /> '''Michael Engberg''': So here is a question to you all, how does the DRC be more open?<br /> Taliametris: and to be involved - I do not like secrecy and lack of openness<br /> Taliametris: all is promises about the future<br /> Taliametris: Things happen and are not explained<br /> Taliametris: thus rumours start<br /> Ford Prefect: maybe put messages on the imager as to what type of progress is being made in opening a new age/area<br /> Taliametris: green lights - good example<br /> John_Drake: one at a time now, not all at once<br /> Rodnik: like why the pub at the ferry was closed down suddenly<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Things like what Talia?<br /> Taliametris: loss of nexus links today…maybe a bug…maybe not<br /> Taliametris: the loss of relto pages<br /> Taliametris: vanishing bahro stones<br /> Taliametris: areas closed off that were open<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Talia, nexus links has a KI message.<br /> Taliametris: there are many questions<br /> Taliametris: and few answers<br /> Arnium: I am not so sure that the DRC has control over all of these things?<br /> Tweek: having KI issues<br /> LaReh: Some DRC have been almost condescending to explorers, that doesn’t help your cause<br /> Tweek: there we go<br /> Taliametris: Perhaps not - but it is hard to discern much information in the audiences we have been granted<br /> John_Drake: When a people get used to somthing and that something is taken away that tends to get them upset<br /> Arnium: I thought we were talking about stopping the division, not about how everything here is not working properly!<br /> Tweek: Michael> how goes Dr Kodama’s proposal?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Talk to Dr. K about more info, he wants to release it all. I am in the middle ground.<br /> Taliametris: It is all part of the same thing which allows people to discuss things without real basis for their discussion<br /> Rodnik: the reason there is a devision or one of them is because the drc doesnt explain itself as much as they could/should, we are explaining how the drc could be more open<br /> Ford Prefect: could people please shout? we are not hearing everyone<br /> Tweek: to much info too soon can be difficult..if you are to release information its sometimes best to release it in stages<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': exactly tweek<br /> Taliametris: I do not want to have to choose sides, if that is part of the plan, I do not want it<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Talia, I don’t want you to choose sides either. I want everyone to be a family, one big family<br /> Taliametris: That is how it has been<br /> Taliametris: But things seem to be changing<br /> Arnium: Daddy! Can I have the keys to the library?<br /> Tweek: lol<br /> LaReh: LOL<br /> John_Drake: hahahaah<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': So, here is the problem, some areas are just not ready.<br /> Tweek: Talia> Change happens…whether good or bad it happens..the thing is we know change is comming so its up to us to shape it into how things should be<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Bonz, island page?<br /> Taliametris: That is what I am trying to do<br /> Deg: What are the terms to clasify an area as ready? Aren’t explorers smart enough to explore carefully?<br /> Taliametris: Tweek unless we stand up for unity among the explorers, it will be changed too<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': So here is an example,<br /> Tweek: Bonz> you may wanna speak to Henderson about that<br /> Tweek: Talia> Yes I agree with that<br /> Arnium: Micheal, does the DRC feel that we are not qualified enough to be explores?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': yesterday we opened the courtyard, we gave you a few days notice. People waited ..<br /> Tweek: Im not qualificated…Im only an Artist and webmast ^_^<br /> Tweek: *master<br /> Tweek: yes its nice to beable to get back up to the courtyard<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': As soon as we opened the area, some people went and jumped on top of the tent.<br /> Deg: Yes, Tweek. But you also have common sense not to get over your head. Explorers should be able to judge weither areas are safe or not.<br /> Arnium: Thank you Micael, I believe you have answered my question.<br /> Strife: has the drc had any complaints from people falling off the tent?<br /> Ford Prefect: who would do such a thing? *cough*<br /> Deg: Hmm… That is unfortunate. You would think the people that are “called to D’ni” would be smarter than to jump on tents.<br /> Tweek: Deg> perhaps..but are explorers structual engineers? can they see what cracks in buildings can prove to be a hazard under the weight of 30 odd people?<br /> Strife: good point tweek<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Arnium, here is my question to you. Do you feel all explorers are qualified?<br /> Arnium: ?shout I am not sure about my qualifications, only about my “callin”.<br /> Strife: the real issue is that the drc doesn’t want leet explorers, or explorers with special access<br /> Daedalus: who’s to say who is “qualified,” exactly, Michael? Can anyone really have that kind of say?<br /> Christoph05: I feel that the qualified will help the underqualified if there are any under.<br /> Arnium: Calling sorry<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I think everyone here has the potential to be someone great. I hope we all try our hardest at it.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I think you all make fine explorers<br /> Tweek: yes..Tweek Ruler of D’ni has a great ring to it…<br /> Tweek: woops did I just let that slip<br /> Beefo laRue: The problem I see is that the DRC dictates all action it’s a dictatorship. What say do the explorers have, in the shaping of the new D’ni?<br /> LaReh: :-P<br /> Taliametris: That has been characteristic so far - that the more experienced have helped the less experienced<br /> Taliametris: as a group we are qualified<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Beefo, we will need your help<br /> Deg: Perhaps if more explorers could assist in the restoration, we’d have less time on our hands to jump on tents.<br /> Taliametris: No Yeesha let us<br /> Arnium: We assume that the DRC is the true power here?<br /> Taliametris: not the DRC?<br /> Daedalus: Who can really say who is “qualified”, Michael? Can anyone really have that kind of say?<br /> Tweek: there is no true power…<br /> Beefo laRue: thats perhaps a harsh term. I don’t mean to confir the negotive conotations<br /> Tweek: unless one believes in the maker<br /> Strife: I have been wondering what help could the explorers give to the rebuilding of dni?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Everyone… listen please. To shape D’ni the drc can not do it alone. We will need your help<br /> Deg: just not yet?<br /> Beefo laRue: agreed the question is how<br /> Daedalus: agreed.<br /> Daedalus: how?<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Yep, just not yet.. We are getting things in place, making the Ki work.<br /> Arnium: Michael, we do not want to help you, we want to join you.<br /> Christoph05: a Willing and Volunteer workforce<br /> Deg: Example: when explorers helped Victor track down Phil.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Setting up hoods, we know there will be many who want to help.<br /> Tweek: Think of it like this…a baby when learning to walk nee<br /> Tweek: eek<br /> Tweek: sorry about that wrong people<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Think of it this way, say we all wanted to help set up play<br /> Strife: could we reserve the concert hall if we did set up a play?<br /> Ford Prefect: yes, the play is the thing, the verry thing<br /> Tweek: could do Romeo and Julliet of D’ni…plent of balconies ;)<br /> The World: quintin> I don’t believe anyone needs to ‘take over’ really. there’s a pretty good Q&A session going on here. ;)<br /> Christoph05: I would like to see the curtains come down, just let us see what you are doing, we will be careful<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': say 100,000 wanted to help at once. The DRC needs to just make it easier for each and everyone of you to do your part.<br /> LaReh: Once the KI is working, we can play marker games and quests to pass the time until we are needed for exploration<br /> Tweek: yes..esspecially if strife remakes his marker game<br /> Deg nods his head<br /> Tweek: hint hint :P<br /> Strife: *grin*<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': if 1000,00 people try to build the set at once, chaos happens.. do you agree?<br /> The World: yep.<br /> LaReh: true<br /> Taliametris: If you give 1000 people nothing much to do, chaos ensues<br /> Christoph05: Are you implying there will be positions “given” to us? Not chosen by us?<br /> Rodnik: play heek<br /> Rodnik: if your bored<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': Chris I think you will see more and more, its just hard to restore and also tell everything<br /> Arnium: IMO he is saying that the DRC intends to be the governing body in the caern.<br /> Strife: i think what is the biggest problem is that we the explorers haven’t done anything to help, except give feedback on what does & doesn’t work<br /> Taliametris: Is alreay fulfilling that role, Arnium<br /> Tweek: soundslike you need a group that searches through information choosing what to release and when and to act like spokes people for the DRC<br /> Christoph05: Maybe you need someone in the DRC to report advancements/ changes daily michael<br /> Strife: i haven’t seen one explorer pick up a cone and place it where it needs to go<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': no way am I saying we want to govern the cavern<br /> Christoph05: that should be all they are supposed to do<br /> Strife: only kick them around.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': I really must leave, but again all I really wanted to say is lets all try to be family, and lets all try to get along.<br /> Arnium: ?shout that was not necessarily a criticism Michael.<br /> '''Michael Engberg''': thanks<br /> Tweek: Michael, do you know when the nexus links will be back?<br /> Deg claps his hands<br /> Tweek: ok thanks Michael<br /> Arnium: ?shout thank you micheal<br /> Strife: i agree with you michael and thanks for your time<br /> Deg: Thanks Micheal<br /> Taliametris: Thank you<br /> LaReh waves<br /> LaReh: Hi Ayli!<br /> Tweek: I think the DRC are learning tho…I mean look how much the talk to us now to how much they used to<br /> Ford Prefect: did someone log this?<br /> Tweek: Ford> I did<br /> Ayli: How long Mr. Engberg been talking?<br /> bonz: yes<br /> Tweek: to turn the water on<br /> Taliametris: I would like to know the answer to that Envie<br /> To '''Michael Engberg''': Thanks for the talk session, MR Engberg …will go a long way to calming randomly choppy waters.<br /> From Michael Engberg in Nexus: you really think so?<br /> To '''Michael Engberg''': Anything you’d like to add to the chatlog?<br /> To '''Michael Engberg''': Yes I do … it didn’t sound like it … but you’d be surprised at how the loudest objections get changed afterwards<br /> From Michael Engberg in Nexus: just tell them I stink of talking in big crowds<br /> [[Category:Uru chat logs]]
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