Editing D'ni grammar

From Guild of Archivists
Warning: You are not logged in. Your IP address will be publicly visible if you make any edits. If you log in or create an account, your edits will be attributed to your username, along with other benefits.

The edit can be undone. Please check the comparison below to verify that this is what you want to do, and then publish the changes below to finish undoing the edit.

Latest revision Your text
Line 3: Line 3:
* D'NI is the encoding used by the ''Dnifont'' typeface, and by RAWA to precisely write D'ni words: '''pAiferen'''
* D'NI is the encoding used by the ''Dnifont'' typeface, and by RAWA to precisely write D'ni words: '''pAiferen'''
* OTS is the ''Old Transliteration Standard'', the most common way of writing D'ni in the Uru community: '''Payiferen'''
* OTS is the ''Old Transliteration Standard'', the most common way of writing D'ni in the Uru community: '''Payiferen'''
* NTS is the ''New Transliteration Standard'', devised by the [[Guild of Linguists (restored)|first Guild of Linguists]] to have a 1-to-1 equivalence between D'ni and roman letters<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.riedl.org/old/transcr.htm|title=The New D'ni Transcription Standard|website=Guild Of Linguists Homepage|access-date=September 6, 2020}}</ref>: '''Péiferen'''
* NTS is the ''New Transliteration Standard'', devised by the [[Guild of Linguists (restored)|first Guild of Linguists]] to have a 1-to-1 equivalence between D'ni and roman letters<ref>"[http://linguists.riedl.org/old/transcr.htm The New D'ni Transcription Standard]", Guild Of Linguists Homepage, accessed September 6, 2020.</ref>: '''Péiferen'''
* LTS is ''Larry LeDeay's Transliterations Standard''<ref>{{cite web|url=http://www.florestica.com/hpotd/dni-fonts/index.html|title=D'ni Fonts and Transliteration Characters|website=The Lost Library of D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020}}</ref>, with an approach similar to the NTS: '''Pāiferen'''
* LTS is ''Larry LeDeay's Transliterations Standard''<ref>"[http://www.florestica.com/hpotd/dni-fonts/index.html D'ni Fonts and Transliteration Characters]", The Lost Library of D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020.</ref>, with an approach similar to the NTS: '''Pāiferen'''
* RTS is ''Revised Transliteration Standard'', devised by KathTheDragon of the [[Guild of Linguists (restored)|new Guild of Linguists]] as a more consistent version of OTS: '''Peyiferen'''
* RTS is ''Revised Transliteration Standard'', devised by KathTheDragon of the [[Guild of Linguists (restored)|new Guild of Linguists]] as a more consistent version of OTS: '''Peyiferen'''
* IPA is the ''[[w:International Phonetic Alphabet|International Phonetic Alphabet]]'', used by linguists to precisely describe the 'sound' of each letter, usually written between brackets: '''[peɪfɛɾɛn]'''
* IPA is the ''[[w:International Phonetic Alphabet|International Phonetic Alphabet]]'', used by linguists to precisely describe the 'sound' of each letter, usually written between brackets: '''[peɪfɛɾɛn]'''
Line 279: Line 279:




=== Letters-numerals comparison ===
Both basic letters and numerals are derived from basic shapes<ref>"[http://linguists.riedl.org/old/more-numbers.htm The connections between the D'ni letters and the numbers]", Guild of Linguists Homepage, accessed September 6, 2020.</ref>:
 
Both basic letters and numerals are derived from basic shapes<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.riedl.org/old/more-numbers.htm|title=The connections between the D'ni letters and the numbers|website=Guild of Linguists Homepage|access-date=September 6, 2020}}</ref>:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
Line 363: Line 361:
The 'full stop' usage is the really different one, as it is always placed at the beginning of the sentence, not at the end.
The 'full stop' usage is the really different one, as it is always placed at the beginning of the sentence, not at the end.


An apostrophe following a vowel represents a glottal stop; one following a consonant represents a schwa<ref>{{cite forum post|url=|author=RAWA|title=More than you wanted to know about Aitrus/Atrus|forum=DRC forums|date=May 18, 2006 [link unavailable]}}</ref>.
An apostrophe following a vowel represents a glottal stop; one following a consonant represents a schwa<ref>RAWA, "More than you wanted to know about Aitrus/Atrus". ''DRC forums''. May 18, 2006. [link unavailable]</ref>.


Example:
Example:
Line 371: Line 369:


== Stress ==
== Stress ==
There isn't a fixed rule for word stress, and it can move when suffixes are attached<ref>{{cite forum post|url=https://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=426543#p426543|author=larryf58|title=Comments on the Pictorial Dictionary?|forum=Myst Online forums|date=August 11, 2017}}</ref>:
There isn't a fixed rule for word stress, and it can move when suffixes are attached<ref>[https://mystonline.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=426543#p426543 larryf58], "Comments on the Pictorial Dictionary?". Myst Online forumsAugust 11, 2017.</ref>:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
Line 545: Line 543:
== Word order ==
== Word order ==


D'ni is a SVO language, i.e. the subject comes first, the verb follows, then comes the object. The article and the negation precede the noun, adjectives usually follow the noun, and adverbs follow the word they modify<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/wordorder.html|title=Word Order|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165853/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/wordorder.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>.
D'ni is a SVO language, i.e. the subject comes first, the verb follows, then comes the object. The article and the negation precede the noun, adjectives usually follow the noun, and adverbs follow the word they modify<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165853/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/wordorder.html Word Order]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>.




Line 612: Line 610:
: "I see the instructor <u>and</u> some students <u>but</u> <u>no</u> books".
: "I see the instructor <u>and</u> some students <u>but</u> <u>no</u> books".


Note that ''ril'' always precedes the word it negates. With lists, ''gah'' is repeated<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/parallel.html|title=Parallelism|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165828/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/parallel.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>: ''reshokhootahn gah rechoortahntee gah rekortee'' "the instructor, the students and the books".
Note that ''ril'' always precedes the word it negates. With lists, ''gah'' is repeated<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165828/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/parallel.html Parallelism]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>: ''reshokhootahn gah rechoortahntee gah rekortee'' "the instructor, the students and the books".


== Pronouns ==
== Pronouns ==
Line 652: Line 650:
== Particles ==
== Particles ==


In D'ni there are more than one word that translate "of", depending on the meaning. The two most common are<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/possession.html|title=Possession and Forms of 'of'|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165904/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/possession.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>:
In D'ni there are more than one word that translate "of", depending on the meaning. The two most common are<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165904/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/possession.html Possession and Forms of 'of']", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
Line 763: Line 761:
== Verbs ==
== Verbs ==
=== Infinitive ===
=== Infinitive ===
In English, that is done by putting "to" before the verb, e.g. "to see". In D'ni, it is done in a very similar way: ''b'yim'', "to see"<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/verbals.html|title=Verbals and Their Use|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165844/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/verbals.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>
In English, that is done by putting "to" before the verb, e.g. "to see". In D'ni, it is done in a very similar way: ''b'yim'', "to see"<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165844/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/verbals.html Verbals and Their Use]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>
. The D'ni particle can also be used as a preposition, just like in English.
. The D'ni particle can also be used as a preposition, just like in English.


Line 777: Line 775:


=== "To be" vs "to exist" ===
=== "To be" vs "to exist" ===
The verb ''b'ken'' "to be" also means "to exist"<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/othersentence.html|title=Other Sentence Forms|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165912/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/othersentence.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>:
The verb ''b'ken'' "to be" also means "to exist"<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165912/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/othersentence.html Other Sentence Forms]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>:


: {{dni-text|.|re-|kor||ken|-en||tomet}} "the book is here"
: {{dni-text|.|re-|kor||ken|-en||tomet}} "the book is here"
Line 1,087: Line 1,085:




The past participle should not be confused with the passive form ''-ij'', although the differences between the two are not completely understood<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/participle.html|title=The Past Participle|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165901/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/participle.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>.
The past participle should not be confused with the passive form ''-ij'', although the differences between the two are not completely understood<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165901/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/participle.html The Past Participle]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>.


== Adverbs ==
== Adverbs ==
Line 1,125: Line 1,123:




Note that ''mot'' can also be used as a relative pronoun: ''rekor mot gelen'' "the book that he writes"; however, when referring to personal nouns ("who"), ''kamrov'' should be used: ''reshokhootahn kamrov yim'' "the instructor (who) I see"<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/relative.html|title=Two Forms of 'that'|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165840/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/relative.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>.
Note that ''mot'' can also be used as a relative pronoun: ''rekor mot gelen'' "the book that he writes"; however, when referring to personal nouns ("who"), ''kamrov'' should be used: ''reshokhootahn kamrov yim'' "the instructor (who) I see"<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165840/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/relative.html Two Forms of 'that']", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>.


''met'' and ''mot'' are singular when used as adjectives (''khoy hevtee met/mot dohooreet'' "if these/those words are found"), but plural when used as pronouns (''kokeneet pekay be motee/metee'' "they were insidious to those/these").
''met'' and ''mot'' are singular when used as adjectives (''khoy hevtee met/mot dohooreet'' "if these/those words are found"), but plural when used as pronouns (''kokeneet pekay be motee/metee'' "they were [similar] to those/these").




Line 1,168: Line 1,166:
: {{dni-text|.|re-|keelen||fahets||ken|-en||ten||tsahnril}} "the first step is never simple (lit. simple never)"
: {{dni-text|.|re-|keelen||fahets||ken|-en||ten||tsahnril}} "the first step is never simple (lit. simple never)"


but can also be expressed by negating the adjective<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/negative.html|title=The Negative 'Rihl'|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165816/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/negative.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>:
but can also be expressed by negating the adjective<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165816/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/negative.html The Negative 'Rihl']", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>:


: {{dni-text|.|re-|keelen||fahets||ken|-en||ril||ten||tsahn}} "the first step is never simple (lit. not-simple always)"  
: {{dni-text|.|re-|keelen||fahets||ken|-en||ril||ten||tsahn}} "the first step is never simple (lit. not-simple always)"  
Line 1,186: Line 1,184:
|-
|-
| '''khe'''–
| '''khe'''–
| for<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/behnkheh.html|title=Two Forms of 'for'|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165808/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/behnkheh.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>
| for<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165808/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/behnkheh.html Two Forms of 'for']", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>
|-
|-
| '''fe'''–
| '''fe'''–
Line 1,227: Line 1,225:




The precise usage of ''ah'' is uncertain; from the sources, the following rules can be inferred<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/objective.html|title=The Objective Particle|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165848/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/objective.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>:
The precise usage of ''ah'' is uncertain; from the sources, the following rules can be inferred<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165848/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/objective.html The Objective Particle]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>:


{| class="wikitable" style="width: 80%;"
{| class="wikitable" style="width: 80%;"
Line 1,253: Line 1,251:
== Quantifiers ==
== Quantifiers ==


D'ni express these in a peculiar way, by using a numerical scale ("to 2", "to 20")<ref>{{cite web|url=http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/modifiers.html|title=Modifiers and Their Use|website=A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni|access-date=September 6, 2020|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165820/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/modifiers.html|archive-date=May 6, 2005}}</ref>. The attested quantifiers are:
D'ni express these in a peculiar way, by using a numerical scale ("to 2", "to 20")<ref>"[http://web.archive.org/web/20050506165820/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/chapter2/modifiers.html Modifiers and Their Use]", A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni, accessed September 6, 2020. Archived from the original on May 6, 2005.</ref>. The attested quantifiers are:


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
Line 1,403: Line 1,401:


=== Holidays ===
=== Holidays ===
{{main|D'ni holidays}}
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
| New Year
| New Year
Line 1,409: Line 1,406:
| April 20/21
| April 20/21
|-
|-
| The First Common Library Opened
| The Common Library Opened
| '''Leefo 12'''
| '''Leefo 12'''
| May 4/5
| May 4/5
Line 1,441: Line 1,438:
| November 22/23
| November 22/23
|-
|-
| Finding of the Lost Books of Birenni
| Lost Book of Birenni Found
| '''Leevobro 12'''
| '''Leevobro 12'''
| December 10/11
| December 10/11
Line 1,449: Line 1,446:
| March 26/27
| March 26/27
|-
|-
| The Day of the Circle
| Day of the Circle
| '''Leenovoo 18'''
| '''Leenovoo 18'''
| April 6/7
| April 6/7
Line 1,457: Line 1,454:
The full name of a [[Guild]] is '''tel–okh–______–tahn–tee''', literally "Guild of ______ers". This name is almost always shortened by omitting ''–okh–'', ''–tahn–tee'' and often shortening the verb itself. Examples: '''telokhseltahntee''' → '''telsel'''.
The full name of a [[Guild]] is '''tel–okh–______–tahn–tee''', literally "Guild of ______ers". This name is almost always shortened by omitting ''–okh–'', ''–tahn–tee'' and often shortening the verb itself. Examples: '''telokhseltahntee''' → '''telsel'''.


There are two ways to identify a member of a specific guild: one is using the Short Name + '''ahm''', the other is obtained by omitting '''tel–okh–''' and '''–tee''' from the Full Name.
There are two ways to identify a member of a specific guild: one is using the Short Name + '''ahm''', the other is obtained by omitting '''telokh–''' and '''–tee''' from the Full Name.


Examples: '''telselahm''', '''seltahn'''.
Examples: '''telselahm''' '''seltahn'''.


Some cases are a bit more complex, e.g. '''tel–okh–sheetem-soo-tahn-tee''' (lit. "Guild of Message Couriers") → '''telshee''' →  '''telsheeahm''', but '''sheetemsootahn'''.
A Guild Master is the Short Name + '''nahvah'''. Example: '''telselnahvah'''.


A Guild Master is the Short Name + '''nahvah'''. Example: '''telselnahvah'''.<br />
A Grand Master is the Short Name + '''nahvah pahrah'''. Example: '''telselnahvah pahrah'''.
A Grand Master is the Short Name + '''nahvah pahrah'''. Example: '''telselnahvah pahrah'''.


==Resources==
==Resources==
* [http://www.eldalamberon.com/dni_dict.htm A Dictionary of the Language of D'ni], by Kh'reestrefah
* [http://www.eldalamberon.com/dni_dict.htm A Dictionary of the Language of D'ni], by Kh'reestrefah
* The [https://www.facebook.com/GoLinguists/ Guild of Linguists] Facebook page
* Talashar's [https://talashargeltahn.wordpress.com/grammar/ D'ni Grammar]
* The [http://www.florestica.com/hpotd/reference.html D'ni Language Resources] page at The Lost Library of D'ni
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160317013710/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/lessons/ Rehchoortahn D'nee] (The D'ni Student), by Domareh
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160317013710/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/lessons/ Rehchoortahn D'nee] (The D'ni Student), by Domareh
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160304220219/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/ A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni], by Domareh
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20160304220219/http://linguists.bahro.com/domahreh/grammar/ A First Survey of the Facts for Writing D'ni], by Domareh
* Talashar's [https://talashargeltahn.wordpress.com/grammar/ D'ni Grammar]
* The first [http://linguists.riedl.org/old/ Guild of Linguists]
* The first [http://linguists.riedl.org/old/ Guild of Linguists]
* The [http://fadedtwilight.org/dnidict/index.html D'ni language] page at Faded Twilight (Yohshee)
* The [https://www.facebook.com/GoLinguists/ Guild of Linguists] Facebook page


==References==
==References==
Please note that all contributions to Guild of Archivists may be edited, altered, or removed by other contributors. If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly, then do not submit it here.
You are also promising us that you wrote this yourself, or copied it from a public domain or similar free resource (see GoArch:Copyrights for details). Do not submit copyrighted work without permission!
Cancel Editing help (opens in new window)

This page is a member of a hidden category: