Talk:Guild of Linguists (restored)

Out-of-Cavern vs In-Cavern

I recently added the {{OOC}} template because I feel like much of this article is written in an Out-of-Cavern style, e.g. it contains mentions of "In-game" and 'real world' websites, however one thing made me hesitate: The Guild of Linguists (restored) does appear to actually exist within the universe of (online) Uru, or at least in some shards of online Uru, as there is an area (at least in the Gehn shard - I can't vouch for others) where 'Guild of Linguists' T-shirts are provided to players.

This fact makes me wonder if either:

• The article ought to have some In-Cavern and some Out-of-Cavern sections.
• There ought to be a separate article for the In-Cavern view of the 'Guild of Linguists'.

This seems like one of those areas where the lines are blurred.

I also considered what the implications would be if the Guild of Linguists has no presence in the official shard. Unfortunately that would only raise the issue of whether the Guild of Linguists should be considered Apocrypha rather than solving the OOC vs IC issue.

For now though, this isn't an issue that needs to be solved any time soon. Having a single Out-of-Cavern article seems sufficient for the time being

Pharap (talk) 06:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

The GoL shirt was added to MOULa on February 2017, and on Gehn, the Open Cave and Deep Island about a year before that (I'm the one who submitted the files in both cases).

The Guild wasn't one of the five picked by Cyan to be given a Pub, but that isn't necessary to qualify as an IC group, just existing in the Cavern without breaking canon is enough; e.g. see how the Great Tree group was formed and incorporated into Uru canon.

I'm not sure how the article could be complete without straddling the line a bit, because of the nature of linguistic discussions; some D'ni sources exist outside the games (as posts on the non-IC official forum, personal emails or even as easter eggs in textures). "Uru Live was closed" should probably be changed to "the Cavern was closed to the public", but I don't know if the brief mention of beta testing is worth adding an OOC tag.

Korovev (talk) 08:35, 1 January 2024 (UTC)